Gene Simmons - "Blast from the past"
Part I
Fra 'Kiss Army Norway Magazine' #3 - 1996.
This
is the 'blast from the past pages' where we take a look at things
that have happen in the past. We would like to open this spot with
a interview that was done for one of the biggest radio station in
Norway, NRK P2. The interview was done at Lip Cafe, when Kiss visited
Oslo the 11th of June 1992 on their promotion tour for Revenge.
The interviews was sent on the radio the same mouth, but the Gene
Simmons interview was mighty edited. As I were there together with
Steinar Fjeld from NRK, I were lucky enough to take a part in a
separate interview with Gene and Paul. Exclusively for the Kiss
Army Norway members will I here give you for the very first time
the hole unedited interview with Gene I hope you enjoy it!!
After shaking hands....This was how we started the interview with
small talk...
Steinar Fjeld: As you see have I brought a sample
of a fan.
Gene: Yeah...He's Crazy....
Stig Karlsen: So you do remember me??
Gene: honestly....No! How many fans do we meet
in a day? Probably thousand, and in a year 300.000!
Stig: And you meet a lots of girls!
Gene: Sometimes.
Stig:
Do you remember the girl from the airport last night?
Gene: Do I remember the girl from the airport last
night...with very big tits... She just gave me this. (Gene holds
up a t-shirts with drawings of several sexual exercises and the
text that said; Gene's work-out.)
Steinar: Will you bring that home?
Gene: Yeah sure! Why not?
Steinar: You ain't married?
Gene: No, I have never been married in my hole
life.
Steinar: But you have a couple of kids with Shannon
Tweed, haven't you?
Gene: I have one child and Fm going to have another
one soon, but marriage is out of the question.
Steinar: So, no matter how many kids, no marriage.
Gene: Absolutely not Because when you stand in
front of a priest or the law, and you say that from now on, for
the rest of my life, I will only be with one women, everybody know
that it is a lie. And I refuse to lie.
Steinar: According to the book "Hitmen"
your old lable-boss Neil Bogart was quite a guy. Was it really that
wild at Casablanca Records?
Gene:
Yeah it was a really strange time when the businessmen were not
in charge of record companies and when crazy and wild people were
in charge of record companies. Neil Bogart was crazy and wild. That's
one of the recent that we were together because crazy people can
recognize other crazy people just like that. My Fucking God....(Gene
suddenly leaves the table and run to the window to look at a women
that he saw outside. He then turns around with a put on smile, as
he said: "I just had to look. When a girl takes that much time
to look pretty why shouldn't we appreciate it".)
Steinar: I agree with you What made you put on
the make-up in the first place? To get recognition?
Gene: Well I guess so, but it seemed like a good
idea at the time. We didn't want to look and sound like everybody
else so we just decided to do what we thought was a good idea.
Steinar: You guys have set the standard for stage-show
for years to come with the flying drum kit, Gene's fire eating antics
and a lots of special effects. It must have cost an enormous lot?
Gene: It cost a lot of money, it cost more money
still in-fact. Every time we decide to go on an European tour it's
an fortune. We're going to bring over the American stage-show sometime
in February (Unfortunately which never happen) and it's going to
cost a fortune, but it's only money.
Steinar:
Some bands have stage-shows that are so expensive that they have
to work many years to see any profit. Was it that way with Kiss
as well?
Gene: We did okay.... How is that for avoiding
the questions? We do all right. Everything we do costs a lot but
ultimately you got to decide if what you wanna do is filled by economy
or just having a good time. Sometimes when you're going to a party
you don't know how much you have spent, but you're having a great
time. That's the way we usually approach shows.
Steinar: You are known as the tongue of rock'n'roll.
Is it no more tongue waging now?
Gene: Also the elbow of rock'n'roll. I have very
good elbows!
Steinar: So you use the elbow to get ahead?
Gene: I use everything I can. The time to change
and do things differently is when people is expecting it of you.
Rock'n'roll should always be a little bit unexpected. If's like
a magician who every time start of his act by pulling out a rabbit
of his hat. Then you go; that's the guy who pulls the rabbit of
his hat. And if that's all you do, it becomes a joke after a while.
At least for a while I'm going to try to keep my tongue inside my
skull most of the time.
Steinar: The Kiss comics sold a hell of a lot
copies in the 70's. They are now collectors items and are very
expensive.
Gene: Yeah they cost hundred of dollars.
Steinar: Do you have them yourself'?
Gene: Yes, I'm a big fan of Kiss.
Steinar:
People say that there is no time like the present, but do you
have a time that you think was the most exiting for Kiss, and
maybe a record to link it with?
Gene: Well now is really exiting, the reason
for it is really simple which is that its always easier to say
something important at the beginning. Ifs always harder to do
something much later on. Once you become the world champion boxer
is a real accomplishment. But can you continue to be the world
champion. When you break a record its nice, but can you break
your own record. Do you care enough to want to break that record.
So we're proud of the past, but the truth is that the present
is much more important. Because when all you are is your past.
Then ifs over, because then it is no different between you and
your grandfather who sits next to the fireplace with his slippers
and tells you stories about things that happen long ago. That's
for the history books. Were not ready for the history books yet.
There is still many chapters to be written in the Kisstory.
Gene Simmons - "Blast from the past"
Part II
Fra 'Kiss Army Norway Magazine' #4 - 1996.
On the 11th of June 1992 was I, Stig lucky enough to participate
at a Gene Simmons interview that Steinar Fjeld did for NRK P2,
one of the leading radio stations in Norway. Part one of this
interview was printed in last issue. Here's part 2 of the unedited
interview done on the promotion tour for Revenge.
Steinar: Do you see Ace Frehley and Peter Criss
nowadays?
Gene: Sometimes we run into each other. I saw
Peter two years ago. You know it's always cordial. Hi, how are
you, how's your family and that's about it. Because they know
and I know that how do I say this nicely they fucked up. They
made a big mistake. They made a choice in life that was wrong,
and they know it. They choose alcohol and drugs instead of being
in Kiss, and those two things can't exist together. You have to
make a choice. You are either in Kiss and you show up on time,
you do your work and respect your fans, or you get the fuck out.
A lot of rock and roll musicians work really hard and were honest
people when they were poor. When they become rich and powerful,
they can't handle the success, they lose respect for themselves
and they just don't care. Those people don't deserve to be where
they are. Because on this planet with five billion people, how
many get to do what I do? Very few. So it should be like a blessing,
like a special thing. You're chosen for a special kind of life
and not everybody should have that Which is why a lot of bands
don't last a long time. They can't handle it, they break up, or
girls break up the band, (in the background could we hear a barking
dog) or dogs get killed for interrupting my interview. (It was
a hysterical funny situation so we started to laugh, and we could
barley continue with the interview.)
Steinar: I believe you say no to drugs?
Gene: I have never been high in my hole life.
I know journalists don't believe it, but that's not important
as long as I live my life my way.
Steinar:
What's your favorite song from the new album?
Gene: Oh Boy! ! The favorite song of the whole
album? Either "Domino", or "Tough Love" or
I guess "Spit").
Steinar: Is this also your favorite Kiss album?
Gene: In a long time. It's tough to say what
Kiss album is my favorite, out of ...who knows how many records
or how many years. But this is the first record since 1982 when
we did "Creatures Of The Night" that I like the whole
album, and not just a song or two. And it's basically because
the band decided to with all respect to the radio stations and
the newspapers basically, go fuck yourself. We decided that the
band had to listen to it's heart, and not try to figure out how
to get songs played on the radio. It's like, if you're a chef
in a restaurant. If you are great, you don't ask the people coming
in how you should make your food. You put in your ingredient.
Because if you ask them what do you like? Somebody would say ice-cream....okay
I put in ice-cream....what do you like? you like ketchup....I
put in ketchup. You're going to have shit at the end. A chef has
to be true to it's own heart. And if you create art, food, music
or anything else it has to be anarchy. You don't ask people how
to create art. That's not the way you create art. Art is a dictatorship.
This is what's inside of me, and you can take it or go fuck yourself,
and it got to be like that. Unfortunately a lots of bands get
raped. They get seduced by power, women, radio, newspapers. When
people say; play a song that is a little nicer. When you do that,
you lose your balls. Rock and roll always has to be on the edge,
and always a little less accepted by your mother and father. Because
on the day that your mother and father like the same music that
you do Rock and roll are dead.
Av Steinar Fjeld og Stig Karlsen
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