Vinnie Vincent on the phone
Fra 'Kiss Army Norway Magazine' #3 - 1996. Før Kiss
Convention våren 1996.
On Monday the 12th of February was Kiss Army Norway treated to a
phone call from Vinnie Vincent himself. He called us to tell a little
about the past with Kiss and about the future plans for Vinnie Vincent.
At 6.15 p.m. (CET) did the phone ring. I was informed about the
call, so you might understand that I was very exited as I picked
up the phone
K.A.N.:
Hallo!
VINNIE: Hello Stig, its Vinnie. How are you doing?
KAN.: Fm doing fine! How are you?
VINNIE: I'm fine, very very fine.
K.A.N.: It's great to hear from you again!
VINNIE: Thank you very much. Thank you so much.
After a short informal chat, was it time to do the interview....
K.A.N.: So, should we just start with the questions?
VINNIE: Ooh yeah!
K.A.N.: It's been a while since we have heard any
news about Vinnie Vincent. What have you been doing lately?
VINNIE: Yeah! It's been a while. Well Fm about
to release a CD called "Guitarmageddon" And Ifs a real
masterpiece I think. Ifs very much along the same line as my first
Invasion record. It has the original invasion vocalist. I think
it is the definitive guitar record, because its wild and ifs sexy,
ifs over the top, and it has a lots of great songs on it. Fm really
proud of the record. Ifs going to be released on my own record-label;
Metaluna, and I will bring a four song EP with me for the conventions.
So this will be the first time that the fans will be available to
buy the record. The album will be released in late summer.
K.A.N.: We are looking forward to that!
VINNIE: Yeah I hope so, because this album is truly
one of the hottest returns to the rock scene in many years!!
K.A.N.: You told about the tittle for the record,
but do you have any cool song tittles that you can give away now?
VINNIE: Oh god. I always hesitate to give the song
tittles out, because I like to keep it as a surprise. I will tell
you closer to the Kiss convention tour.
K.A.N.:
Can you please tell us about your band-mates and songwriters for
this record?
VINNIE: Let me try to get this right. I have a
way of making records that works for me. When I try to bring in
other people to make my music, you know, it doesn't work right.
So I always try to stay as self-contained as possible. So what that
means is that I write all the songs, because I know what kind of
music that I like and that is best for me. I don't bring in any
other writers and I produce the album myself, because I know how
I want the music to come out. I have also found a singer that sings
my material that's best for my songs. I use the same Invasion vocalist
from my first solo album, because he's voice really does fit the
material that I write. And then what I do is that I get a drummer
and put it together. But I play all the guitars, I play the bass,
I arrange it, I produce it and I mix it. Its really done within
myself. Its easier for me to have full control of my music.
K.A.N.: Will it be a single and a video for the
album?
VINNIE: I'm not going to do a video yet. I know
this sounds kind of crazy, but I don't like a lot of promotion,
I would rather get to the real true fans and have them to enjoy
the music. Let it grow very slow and very simple. I would rather
be more real this time. When the time is right I would produce singles
and videos. You know the big business part of it is good, but this
time I want to be more honest. Its always honest, but I want this
to be a lot more simple. I want it to be like; here is the EP, here
is the album. I want to reach the fans that really want my music.
That's what this is aimed for. This is not aimed for all the magazines
and TV-shows. I want this to be about the music. And the fans that
know me will know my music. I want it to be word of mouth. I want
one person to say; hey have you heard the new Vinnie Vincent record,
I got to get it. That's what is important to me right now, and I
would like to keep it that way.
K.A.N.:
Lets go back to the days even before Kiss. You have played and recorded
material with Dan Hartman and a group called Treasure. You have
also played on a Bangles tune. Can you please tell us a little about
that?
VINNIE: I'm surprised that you know all these things...Wow...
One of my first bands was Treasure and it was a very exiting time
for me because the singer and keyboard player Felix Cavarie was
one of my idols, because when I did grow up in the 60s he had a
band that I was a huge fan of. Dan Hartman was a very special talent
and I had a lot of respect for
him. I joined him at a time when he was putting together a rock
group, but he also liked to play disco music, so he recorded a disco
song called Instant Replay. It turned out to be a hit all over the
world. He then canceled the rock group, and said; "look I got
to go out and play Television-shows all over the world, because
my record is a hit". So he asked me if I could come to Europe
and lip-synch on TV-shows with him. So I did, and it was a lot of
fun, we had a ball. That was the first time that I were in Europe.
It was in 1978. Then we did TV-shows in USA, and it lasted for about
six months. We did one album together and it was a very nice experience.
And with The Bangles....You know I have always loved pop music.
Bangles were a really good band. I don't remember where I met them,
but I think it was at an autograph signing in Los Angeles. I asked
them if they would like to get together to write. So we wrote a
numbers of songs at my house, in my own studio. I wrote a song with
Vicki Peterson called "Make A Play For Her Now", and they
picked that one for their album. They asked me to play guitar on
it, so I did. I loved their band, so it was fantastic.
K.A.N.: Okey, lets talk about your first time with
Kiss. Do you have any great stories that you would like to share
with us?
VINNIE: You know, they are all great! To me it
was incredible, because it was so great. I met Paul and Gene in
late 1981 or in early 1981. And the way it begun was that I had
a demo called "Back On The Streets". I sang the song and
I recorded a demo of it in 1980. I was very poor, so my wife and
I had a small apartment and a wreck of a car. Anyway....I got a
call that said that Ace had left Kiss and that they were addition
people. But you know there was so many guitarists that wanted the
job. So the chances to become the new Kiss guitars was like a million
to one. So it was very difficult to think that you were the person
to do this. That you could be the one to be chosen...It was hard
to believe. Even after all this years I think it's strange. In 1980
I started to play with groups in Los Angeles and people started
to hear about me, cause I played on different demos and etc. And
there was a song writer that I started to write songs with. He's
name was Adam Michelle and we wrote a song called "Tears"
at that time. Adam started to write with Gene Simmons. So, Adam
heard my version of the song "Back On The Streets", and
he said to Gene; "you got to meet my friend Vinnie, he would
be really good for you to work with, because I heard a song called
Back On The Streets, and you got to hear that song. He's a great
guitar player also, so you have to meet him." I thought it
was so big that Adam worked with him. So I said to him...geeh...I
would love to meet Gene. This would be fantastic, can I please meet
him. So Gene went over to Adam's house one day and Adam said come
over. It must have been in late 1980 or early 1981. Ace was leaving
the group, and I met Gene and we really hit it of. I really liked
him, hes such a nice person. We talked and he said;
lets try to write together. And that is how it began. You know it
was so amazing to meet up with him, because this was one of the
biggest stars in the world.
K.A.N.:
Were you a Kiss fan before you did enter the band?
VINNIE: How can I explain this? I was so impressed.
Something is just awesome. You know when you see the "Empire
State Building" or the painting; "Mona Lisa". There
is something you just can't believe. Kiss was like one of the seven
wonders of the world to me. So I met Gene, and I can't explain how
great that was. We started to write together and I was always very
nervous, but we had a fantastic musical chemistry. It was truly
fantastic. I don't know how else to put it.
K.A.N.: But you are a very technical guitarist
while Gene and Paul is much more straight ahead musicians. How was
it to write songs with such a different guitarist as Paul?
VINNIE: You know, we are about the same age, and
we like the same kind of music. We grew up with the same kind of
bands, and we had the same influences. So even though I was technical
and Paul wasn't, it wasn't really about guitar playing. It was about
the songs that we grew up with and that we all loved. And it was
about sharing the same musical style. You know, we all loved The
Beatles and Led Zeppelin. So the chemistry was there and then it
was easy to write.
K.A.N.: So what is your favorite song that you
wrote with them?
VINNIE: A lot of these songs have different memories.
The first song that Gene and I wrote together was Killer. And it
has a lots of memories, because I wanted to prove to Gene that I
was a good song writer, and that I was a value to Kiss. I wrote
the song originally for Gene, and I asked him; what do you think?
And then he made his changes, so we had sharing of the writing.
So it is a lots of memories with each song. I Love it Loud was the
second song that we wrote, and the memories that I have of that
song is that we wrote it at Diana Ross's house in California. To
me its like the definitive Kiss song. There is a few songs that
you hear, and you can say; that's Kiss. Detroit Rock City, Lick
It Up and I Love It Loud is such songs. I Love It Loud was really
special to me because when we played in Rio, there was about 200.000
people in the audience, and from backstage could we hear the kids
sing the intro to the song. It was amazing. I can't never, ever
explain to someone else how incredible that feeling was. Paul and
I wrote some great songs, and Lick It Up is a great memory to me.
Its a lots of songs that have memories that I can't put into words.
K.A.N.: You all had a great time together, and
a great musical chemistry,
but it was also some personal difficulties between you guys? What's
your side of that story?
VINNIE: I don't think they were personal. I admire
them. I really liked the company. We had a great time together,
and I liked the friendship. I think we had respect for each other
and I think we were really good friends. We had a lots of laughs
and had a lots of fun. Its very good memories for me. The problems
that I think we had was just in the business end. Many times when
you have any kind of big business there is misunderstandings. The
Beatles had misunderstandings. Its always something bad that comes
with the good and we couldn't really sort it out I guess. If I can
put it that way. You know it caused some hurt feelings. No one escapes
hurt feelings, it hits everybody, including me. But maybe someday
it will be sorted out and maybe we work together again. Whenever
Gene and Paul want me I will always be there for them.
K.A.N.:
You wrote with them again in 1991 for the Revenge album. How did
that come about?
VINNIE: We ran into each other at a recording studio
in Los Angeles, and it was great to meet them again, so we wrote
a couple of songs together and the chemistry was still there.
K.A.N.: It might not be easy to answer, but what
is your best and worst memory from the days with Kiss?
VINNIE: Easy question! The best thing was to join
the band, and the worst was to break up with them.
K.A.N.: After Kiss....you started Vinnie Vincent
Invasion and had a fair success with your first album. What did
happen to the band after the release of the second album All System
Go?
VINNIE: After Kiss, I used a lot of my own money
to record all the songs that was supposed to be my contributions
for Animalize. "Boys Are Gonna Rock", "Twisted",
"Animal" and those songs that I wrote while I still were
in Kiss. I did write all the songs and arranged all the instruments.
So it was a solo album, because it was all me. My manager at that
time said that the music didn't sounded as a solo artist, so he
wanted it to be a band. And that didn't worked for me, because I
have this strong vision on how I want my music to be, I want full
control over my music all the way. So we split up.
K.A.N.: You are the special guest on the European
Kiss convention-tour this year? What do you expect of your fans,
and what can the fans expect of you when you're coming?
VINNIE: I want to come over and say hello to my
fans, and have a great time I hope that we will have a great time
together. I will be answering questions, sign autographs and I will
also bring with me a lots of things for the people to see, and there
will also be things to buy. I will bring guitar picks, photos that
I took while I were in the band. A lots of cool things. I might
also bring with me some photos that I took when we were in Rio in
1983.
K.A.N.:
When can we expect to see you in Europe and Norway for concerts?
VINNIE: I will be on tour at the right time. When...I
don't know yet.
But I can tell you that it will be one hell of a show. It will be
a lots theatrics for the show. So I hope to bring it over to Europe
and Norway after the release of the new album. You know....I would
love to come.
K.A.N.: We are looking forward to seeing you!
VINNIE: I'm looking forward to seeing you too,
I'm looking forward to meet the fans. You know it is an honour to
be a part of the Kiss history and the music that we created. It's
an honour for me, to have been a part of that group. It is very
important in my life, it really has a special place in my life,
and you know you can never help to feel that you're a part of the
Kiss family. I will always feel that I'm a part of Kiss, and they
have my true support in whatever they do.
K.A.N.: I think ifs very nice that you don't deny
the time with Kiss, because many people that go from a band and
start a solo carrier try to forget about the past.
VINNIE: No, the past was magical. It has some wonderful
memories. It had foundation for me of what my present and my future
is. If they ever want me or whenever they call me I would be there
for them. And I would love to work with them again. We had a fantastic
chemistry. I love working with Gene and Paul. We always make great
music together.
That's it from Vinnie himself Don't miss the Kiss Expo in Oslo
on the 3rd of April.
If you want to get to know Vinnie Vincent better, you should join
his fan club. Details on how to join will follow. Look out!!!
Av Stig Karlsen
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